
Arcane is Elden Ring's most misunderstood stat. Most players know it increases bleed buildup, but few understand the exact breakpoints and why they matter.
This guide gives you the precise Arcane soft cap values, the mechanics behind them, and how to optimize your build at every level range.
Use the Build Planner to test your Arcane allocation before respeccing.
Quick Reference: Arcane Soft Cap Table
Here is the complete Arcane scaling table. Use this to determine the best Arcane level for your build.
| Arcane Range | Scaling Efficiency | Recommended Use |
|---|---|---|
| 1-20 | Low returns | Weapon requirement only |
| 20-45 | Good scaling | Early bleed builds, stat minimums |
| 45-60 | Best efficiency | PvE meta range, optimal bleed buildup |
| 60-80 | Diminishing returns | PvP optimization, max Arcane scaling |
| 80-99 | Very low returns | Specialized builds, not recommended |
Key Takeaway
Most PvE bleed builds should stop at 45-60 Arcane. Going beyond 60 gives very little benefit for the stat investment.
What Does Arcane Do in Elden Ring?
Arcane affects three major systems:
1. Status Effect Buildup
Arcane increases the buildup speed of bleed, poison, and sleep on weapons with Arcane scaling. This is the primary reason to invest in Arcane.
- At 20 Arcane: ~20% faster bleed buildup than base
- At 45 Arcane: ~45% faster bleed buildup
- At 60 Arcane: ~55% faster bleed buildup
- At 80 Arcane: ~60% faster bleed buildup
The gain from 60 to 80 Arcane is only ~5% more buildup speed — 20 levels for minimal benefit.
2. Weapon Damage Scaling
Weapons with Arcane scaling (occult infusion, unique Arcane weapons) gain damage from Arcane. The scaling follows standard soft cap curves.
3. Item Discovery
Arcane increases item discovery by approximately 1 point per level. At 99 Arcane with Silver-Pickled Fowl Foot, you can reach 300+ discovery.
What Arcane Does NOT Do
- Arcane does NOT increase bleed damage per proc (always 15% max HP + 200 flat)
- Arcane does NOT affect non-Arcane-scaling weapons
- Arcane does NOT improve spell damage unless using Dragon Communion Seal or Albinauric Staff
Why 45 Arcane Is Important (The First Major Breakpoint)
45 Arcane is the most important threshold for bleed builds. Here is why.
The Efficiency Curve
Arcane scaling on status buildup does not increase linearly. The biggest efficiency gains happen before the second soft cap.
- 1-20: Low returns. Only invest here for weapon requirements.
- 20-45: Highest returns per level. Each point adds meaningful bleed buildup.
- 45-60: Still efficient, but returns begin to taper.
- 60-80: Diminishing returns. 20 levels for ~5% more buildup.
- 80-99: Very low. Almost no benefit.
Why Stop at 45?
At 45 Arcane:
- Bleed buildup gains remain efficient
- Weapon scaling (occult infusion) reaches a strong point
- Hybrid builds still have enough levels for Vigor (60), Dexterity (45), and Endurance (25)
- This is why most Level 120-150 bleed builds stop at 45-60 ARC
The 45 Arcane Build
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Level 150 Bleed Build:
Vigor 60, Mind 20, Endurance 25, Dexterity 45, Arcane 50
Rivers of Blood +10, Occult Nagakiba +25
Lord of Blood's Exultation, Shard of Alexander
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At 45 Arcane, Rivers of Blood deals ~65 bleed buildup per hit. At 60 Arcane, it reaches ~72. That 15 extra levels gives only 7 more buildup.
Why 60 Arcane Matters (The Second Soft Cap)
60 Arcane is the second major soft cap. Here is what you gain by pushing past 45.
What 60 Arcane Unlocks
- Maximum efficiency on Arcane-scaling weapons (Dragon Communion Seal, Marais Executioner's Sword)
- Higher occult infusion damage for pure Arcane builds
- Better item discovery for farming runs
The 60 vs 45 Trade-Off
| Metric | 45 Arcane | 60 Arcane | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Bleed buildup (Rivers of Blood) | ~65 | ~72 | +7 (10.7%) |
| Occult Nagakiba AR | ~480 | ~520 | +40 (8.3%) |
| Item Discovery | ~145 | ~160 | +15 |
| Levels Used | 45 | 60 | +15 levels |
When to Go to 60
- You are building a pure Arcane caster (Dragon Communion)
- You have levels to spare after reaching 60 Vigor
- You want maximum occult weapon damage
- You are at Level 175+ or NG+
When to Stay at 45
- You are at Level 150 or below
- You need levels for Dexterity or Endurance
- You are primarily using Rivers of Blood (bleed scales well enough at 45)
- You want to stay in standard PvP matchmaking range
Arcane Scaling Test: Weapon Comparison (Level 150)
We tested each major Arcane weapon at two breakpoints using the Build Planner. All tests at Level 150 with 60 Vigor, weapon +10/+25.
| Weapon | ARC 45 (Bleed) | ARC 60 (Bleed) | ARC 45 (AR) | ARC 60 (AR) | Improvement |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Rivers of Blood +10 | 65 | 72 | 485 | 508 | +7 bleed, +23 AR |
| Occult Nagakiba +25 | 58 | 65 | 480 | 520 | +7 bleed, +40 AR |
| Eleonora's Poleblade +10 | 63 | 70 | 460 | 488 | +7 bleed, +28 AR |
| Occult Great Stars +25 | 55 | 62 | 510 | 545 | +7 bleed, +35 AR |
| Varre's Bouquet +10 | 72 | 80 | 350 | 380 | +8 bleed, +30 AR |
Key Findings
- Bleed buildup increase from 45 to 60 ARC is consistent at ~7-8 points per weapon
- AR improvement varies from +23 to +40 depending on weapon scaling
- Occult-infused weapons benefit more from high Arcane than unique weapons
- The 15 levels from 45 to 60 cost more than they return for most builds
Verdict: For most PvE builds, 45-50 Arcane is the optimal stop point. Go to 60 only for pure Arcane caster builds or Level 175+ characters.
Arcane vs Dexterity for Bleed Builds
This is one of the most common questions for bleed build optimization.
| Comparison | Arcane | Dexterity |
|---|---|---|
| Bleed buildup | ★★★★★ — Primary scaling stat | ★★ — Minimal effect |
| Physical damage | ★★★ — Good with occult infusion | ★★★★★ — Best with keen infusion |
| Status weapon damage | ★★★★★ — Scales bleed + AR | ★★★ — AR only |
| PvE boss kills | ★★★★★ — Bleed procs melt bosses | ★★★★ — Fast attacks |
| PvP pressure | ★★★★ — Bleed burst | ★★★★★ — Roll-catch speed |
| Hybrid flexibility | ★★★ — Limited to Arcane weapons | ★★★★ — Works with any weapon |
The Optimal Split (Level 150)
For maximum bleed build performance:
- Arcane: 45-50 (primary for bleed buildup)
- Dexterity: 40-45 (for attack speed and weapon requirements)
When to Prioritize Arcane Over Dexterity
- You use Rivers of Blood or other unique Arcane weapons
- You rely on bleed procs for damage
- You are fighting bosses with high HP (bleed is percentage-based)
When to Prioritize Dexterity Over Arcane
- You use keen-infused weapons with Blood Grease
- You focus on PvP roll-catches and pressure
- You want more physical damage per hit
Bottom Line: Arcane wins for PvE bleed builds. Dexterity wins for PvP pressure builds.
Recommended Arcane Levels: PvE vs PvP

The best Arcane level depends on your content. Here are the recommended ranges.
| Content | Recommended ARC | Why |
|---|---|---|
| Early game (Level 1-50) | 15-20 | Weapon requirements only |
| Mid game (Level 50-100) | 25-35 | Start building bleed |
| Endgame PvE (Level 100-150) | 45-50 | Optimal efficiency |
| DLC (Level 140-160) | 45-55 | Higher survivability needs |
| PvP duels (Level 125) | 40-45 | Balance with Vigor |
| PvP invasions (Level 150) | 45-50 | Consistent bleed procs |
| PvP optimization | 60-80 | Maximum Arcane scaling |
| NG+ (Level 175+) | 50-60 | Extra levels for scaling |
PvP Note: Most PvP builds at Level 125-150 stop at 45-50 Arcane. Going above 60 is only for specialized setups.
How Bleed Scaling Actually Works
Understanding the mechanics helps you make better build decisions.
The Formula
Bleed buildup per hit = Weapon base bleed + (Arcane scaling multiplier × Arcane level)
- Weapon base bleed: 45-65 for most bleed weapons
- Arcane scaling multiplier: 0.3-0.8 depending on weapon and infusion
- The multiplier is highest on occult-infused weapons
The Soft Cap Curve
| ARC Range | Bleed Buildup Gain per Level |
|---|---|
| 1-20 | 0.3-0.5 per level |
| 20-45 | 0.8-1.2 per level (highest returns) |
| 45-60 | 0.5-0.8 per level (moderate returns) |
| 60-80 | 0.2-0.4 per level (diminishing) |
| 80-99 | 0.1-0.2 per level (very low) |
Critical Insight
Bleed damage per proc does NOT scale with Arcane. It always deals:
- 15% of target max HP + 200 flat damage
This means Arcane only affects how often you proc bleed, not how hard each proc hits.
Common Arcane Build Mistakes
Here are the most common mistakes players make with Arcane builds.
Mistake 1: Over-Investing in Arcane
Going to 80 Arcane on a Level 150 build is almost always a mistake.
- 80 ARC + 40 DEX < 50 ARC + 45 DEX for overall DPS
- The 30 extra levels in Arcane are better spent on Vigor or Dexterity
Mistake 2: Ignoring Arcane on Bleed Weapons
Using Rivers of Blood with base Arcane (8) is wasted potential.
- Rivers of Blood has C scaling in Arcane
- Every point up to 45 adds meaningful bleed buildup
- Minimum: 20 ARC. Recommended: 45-50 ARC.
Mistake 3: Using Wrong Infusion
- Occult infusion: Best for pure Arcane builds
- Blood infusion: Better for low-Arcane builds
- Keen infusion + Blood Grease: Best for Dexterity-focused builds
Mistake 4: Ignoring Arcane for Dragon Communion
Dragon Communion Seal scales purely with Arcane. At 45 ARC, it outperforms most other seals for incantation scaling.
Use the Build Planner to test your specific build before respeccing.
Best Arcane Build Archetypes

1. Bleed Arcane (PvE Meta)
The most popular Arcane build.
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Level 150:
Vigor 60, Mind 20, Endurance 25, Strength 12, Dexterity 45, Arcane 50
Rivers of Blood +10, Occult Nagakiba +25
Lord of Blood's Exultation, Shard of Alexander
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2. Dragon Communion Caster
Uses Arcane-scaling incantations.
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Level 150:
Vigor 55, Mind 30, Endurance 20, Faith 30, Arcane 60
Dragon Communion Seal +10, Occult Flamberge +25
Flocks Canvas Talisman, Godfrey Icon
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3. Pure Occult (Physical Arcane)
Uses occult-infused weapons for pure physical damage.
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Level 150:
Vigor 60, Endurance 30, Strength 20, Dexterity 18, Arcane 60
Occult Great Stars +25, Occult Spiked Caestus +25
Lord of Blood's Exultation, Shard of Alexander
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Use the Build Planner to test your specific build before respeccing.
Recommended Level 150 Bleed Arcane Setup
Here is the exact setup we recommend for a Level 150 bleed Arcane build. This build balances bleed buildup, physical damage, and survivability.
Full Stat Allocation
| Stat | Value |
|---|---|
| Vigor | 60 |
| Mind | 20 |
| Endurance | 25 |
| Strength | 12 |
| Dexterity | 45 |
| Intelligence | 9 |
| Faith | 8 |
| Arcane | 50 |
Equipment
| Slot | Item |
|---|---|
| Main Weapon | Rivers of Blood +10 |
| Secondary | Occult Nagakiba +25 |
| Off-Hand | Dragon Communion Seal +10 |
| Talisman 1 | Lord of Blood's Exultation |
| Talisman 2 | Shard of Alexander |
| Talisman 3 | Rotten Winged Sword Insignia |
| Talisman 4 | Claw Talisman |
| Armor Set | White Mask + Veteran's Set |
Why This Setup Works
- 60 Vigor ensures you survive DLC boss combos
- 45 Dexterity gives fast attack speed and meets weapon requirements
- 50 Arcane hits the optimal bleed buildup range
- Occult Nagakiba gives a physical damage option when bleed is resisted
See our full Level 150 Builds Guide for more build examples.
Should You Go Above 60 Arcane?
For most builds, the answer is no. Here is when it makes sense.
When 80 Arcane Is Worth It
- Pure Arcane caster (Dragon Communion): At 80 ARC, Dragon Communion Seal reaches 330+ incantation scaling. This is the highest seal scaling in the game.
- Level 200+ NG+ builds: With extra levels, you can reach 80 ARC while maintaining 60 Vigor and 40 Endurance.
- Maximum item discovery: 99 ARC + Silver Scarab + Silver-Pickled Fowl Foot = 378 discovery.
When 80 Arcane Is NOT Worth It
- Level 150 bleed builds: 50 ARC + 45 DEX outperforms 80 ARC + 30 DEX in every metric.
- PvP at Level 125: You cannot reach 80 ARC without sacrificing Vigor.
- Any build below Level 175: The levels are better spent on Vigor, Endurance, or a secondary damage stat.
Verdict: 80 Arcane is a luxury only available to high-level or specialized builds.
Arcane vs Faith: Which Is Better for Status Builds?
Both Arcane and Faith can support status effect builds, but they work differently.
| Comparison | Arcane | Faith |
|---|---|---|
| Bleed buildup | ★★★★★ — Direct scaling | ★★ — Only via incantations |
| Poison / Rot | ★★★★ — Arcane-scaling weapons | ★★★★★ — Pest Threads, Rot Breath |
| Weapon damage | ★★★★ — Occult infusion | ★★★ — Flame Art / Sacred |
| Buffs | ★ — No self-buffs | ★★★★★ — Golden Vow, FGMS |
| Healing | ★ — Limited | ★★★★★ — Erdtree Heal |
| Range | ★★★ — Limited to weapons | ★★★★★ — Incantations |
When to Choose Arcane
- You want bleed as your primary damage source
- You prefer melee combat with status effects
- You are building around Rivers of Blood or Eleonora's Poleblade
When to Choose Faith
- You want versatility (damage + healing + buffs)
- You prefer ranged combat with incantations
- You want access to multiple damage types (fire, holy, lightning)
Both can work together in a Dragon Communion build that uses Arcane for seal scaling and Faith for incantation requirements.
FAQ
What is the best Arcane level for bleed builds?
45-60 Arcane is the optimal range for most PvE bleed builds. This gives efficient bleed buildup without over-investing.
Is 80 Arcane worth it?
Only for specialized PvP builds or maximum Arcane scaling setups (Dragon Communion caster, Level 200+ NG+ characters). For standard Level 150 builds, 45-60 is better.
Does Arcane increase all bleed weapons?
No. Only weapons with Arcane scaling benefit. Rivers of Blood, Eleonora's Poleblade, and occult-infused weapons scale with Arcane. Standard weapons with Blood infusion do not benefit from Arcane for bleed buildup.
What is the difference between Arcane and Dexterity for bleed?
Arcane increases bleed buildup speed and occult weapon damage. Dexterity increases physical damage and attack speed. For PvE bleed builds, Arcane is more important.
Does Arcane increase bleed damage per proc?
No. Bleed damage is always 15% of max HP + 200 flat damage. Arcane only increases how often you proc bleed, not how much damage each proc deals.
Can I use Arcane without bleed?
Yes. Occult-infused weapons deal pure physical damage that scales with Arcane. This is a viable build path for physical damage without relying on status effects.
What is the best Arcane weapon in Elden Ring?
Rivers of Blood is the most popular, but Occult Nagakiba and Occult Great Stars offer better pure physical damage. For casting, Dragon Communion Seal is the best Arcane-scaling catalyst.
Does Arcane affect item discovery?
Yes. Each point of Arcane adds approximately 1 point of item discovery. At 99 Arcane with Silver-Pickled Fowl Foot, you can reach 378 discovery.
What is the soft cap for Arcane?
There are three soft caps: 20 (first), 45 (second / main), and 60 (third). After 60, returns are very low.
Should I level Arcane or Faith for Dragon Communion?
Arcane. Dragon Communion Seal scales primarily with Arcane. Invest in Arcane for seal scaling and Faith only for incantation requirements.